What of the Red Star? The Mages? Werewolves? Wraiths? Mummies? Changlings? Pentex?

What do you think happened? Did the antediluvians awaken and slake their thirst on their clans? Did Caine come and pass judgment on his children? Did god forgive Caine and release the curse? Did the withering claim them all as god let the curse fade? Did something destroy Caine and his blood? Did Caine do nothing and let his children fight amongst themselves and rise to enslave the world? I'm really just looking for some discussion because I'm very interested in seeing what people believe actually occurred in the final nights. I'm sure things occur in the novels that people consider canon and that's cool. I'll admit I haven't read the actual novels and much of what I know comes from devouring the sourcebooks years ago.

Ravnos waking and being destroyed after days of battle (and nukes), alternate endings to the Kindred race, the Red Star (which I never really figured out what that was), the ending of Mage, Werewolf. Now, I know cannonicaly the final nights were always up to the storyteller and hints were tossed out here and there. Just sparking some more discussion while playing Bloodlines, waiting for number two next year.Īnyways, I've always found the lore so interesting and as deep as the rabbit hole goes, the end times always got me thinking.

Vtm the final nights